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August 26 2009
Top centers: Howard, Duncan real men in the middle
By Tony Mejia
Pro Basketball News

This is the third part of PBN's series of positional player rankings, which will also feature a Top 100 and a seperate list of Top Rookies as ranked by senior writer Tony Mejia. The rankings are based on an ambiguous formula of past accomplishments, upside, team role and general worthiness of swagger. As in, who's most swagger-worthy? They're entirely subjective, so arguments are not only expected, but encouraged.

Houston's Yao Ming was intentionally omitted from this list since he'll miss the entire 2009-10 season with a foot injury.

1. Dwight Howard, Orlando - The strides he's made on the offensive end haven't come fast enough for some critics, but rest assured, he's made progress. What makes the 23-year-old truly special is how dominant he is despite being an unfinished product, controlling the game on the boards and defensive end the way few in the game's history have.

2. Tim Duncan, San Antonio - The seven games he missed last season were his most since 2004-05, a testament to how durable he's been once he hit his 30s. Expect Gregg Popovich to be more careful with him from here on out, resting him during back-to-backs to keep him fresh for May and June. Last season's numbers were down a bucket and a board from his career averages due to the decreased minutes, but he's still a good bet to rack up another season of 19 and 10, continuing his double-double streak to 13 -- every year he's been in the league.

3. Pau Gasol, L.A. Lakers - After never even winning a playoff game in Memphis, he's proven himself on the grandest of stages since joining L.A., capping his latest impressive postseason with a superb Finals. Even though he's going to play his share of power forward, his ability to play center takes the pressure off Andrew Bynum, allows Lamar Odom to get himself off comfortably and makes the Lakers the team to beat.

4. Amar'e Stoudemire, Phoenix -
Playing with Shaquille O'Neal didn't work out according to plan, as Stoudemire's numbers actually suffered when he was healthy enough to play with his new mentor/bodyguard. Though he says he would've welcomed one more year alongside Big Cactus, he's probably better off holding the fort down on his own. It is after all, a contract year. Provided his right eye is fine and protective goggles don't bother him, expect his knees to hold up through a big season that puts him in position to try and cash in on a max deal.

5. Al Jefferson, Minnesota - After tearing his right ACL late last season, a speedy recovery has him on track to start the season at 100 percent. Considering Kurt Rambis has been given the mandate to run at all costs, a slimmed down Big Al should have plenty of opportunities to rack up points and rebounds.

6. Shaquille O'Neal, Cleveland - The most riveting "Shaq vs." episode will play out long after his TV series is off the air. It's the ongoing battle between him and time. Phoenix's training staff did remarkable work in helping keep him healthy, springy and motivated through 75 games last season, rescuscitating a career that was dying a slow death in Miami. Attempting to share the stage with LeBron James will keep him focused and hungry to pull his weight with the Cavs. Still, we shouldn't forget that he's now 37 with tons of mileage, so be realistic with your expectations.

7. Emeka Okafor, New Orleans - A change of scenery should do Okafor some good. He'll get to play with the league's most dynamic point guard and an All-Star power forward, allowing him to concentrate on doing the things he does best. Getting out of the same division as Orlando's Howard, the only player drafted ahead of him in '04, could help, too, since his performances always seem to have a shadow cast on them by the Magic center.

8. Mehmet Okur, Utah - He's been the top-shooting center in the league for a few years now, surpassing former teammate Rasheed Wallace. Okur is coming off a season where he shot a career-best 45 percent from 3-point range, earning himself an extension scheduled to keep him in the business of open looks courtesy of Deron Williams through 2012.

9. Nene, Denver - Part of Denver's rise can be attributed to the big Brazilian staying healthy for 77 games and a postseason run, something he hadn't accomplished since 2004. He averaged a career-high 14.6 points, 7.8 rebounds and shot 60 percent from the field, adding a dimension the Nuggets otherwise lack with his quality size in the middle as a proficient post scorer and underrated defender.

10. Andrea Bargnani, Toronto - Cut him a little slack. So what if it took him a while to get himself acclimated to this side of the world and the NBA? After bouts of inconsistency, he averaged nearly 20 points per game over the season's final months and showed the type of versatile flow game that got him selected No. 1 in '06. His progress this coming season will ultimately serve as the top recruiting tool for keeping Chris Bosh in town.

11. Andrew Bynum, L.A. Lakers - It seems he can never maintain any momentum, coming up hurt whenever he's finally in the flow and taking advatage of his physical gifts. Just 10 days after scoring a career-high 42 points in late January, he tore his MCL and was a shadow of himself come the postseason. He'll turn 22 when the season tips off and has a decade of prominence at his fingertips if he can ever get out of his own way.

12. Brook Lopez, New Jersey - His rookie season could only have gone better if the Nets had snuck into the playoffs to get him that experience. He played every game, starting 75, and dazzled with his post skills and shot-blocking, emerging as a better defender than the doubters who labeled him mechanical had anticipated. With Vince Carter gone and Jersey committed to building from the ground up, look for his touches and production to improve significantly on his impressive first-year numbers (13.0 ppg, 8.1 rpg).

13. Al Horford, Atlanta - His postseason was hampered by a bum ankle, putting a grim end to a season where Horford made some progress, exhibiting a better feel for the game and building off a strong rookie season. Now healthy and ready to ripen at age 23, look for his development to be a major factor in Atlanta's bid to join Orlando, Boston and Cleveland as the East's beasts.

14. Andrew Bogut, Milwaukee - It's never good when you reach your mid-20s nursing a significant back injury, and the Australian center told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that he won't know what his time frame to start the season will be until he undergoes some contact drills. When healthy, he's not the superstar you associate most No. 1 picks as being, but rather a strong glue guy who rebounds well, sets good screens, makes smart passes and facilitates offense.

15. Greg Oden, Portland -
So what if he's forever injured and foul-prone? If he was on your roster, wouldn't you want him? Even with Brandon Roy locked up and LaMarcus Aldridge headed down that same path, Oden remains the key to the Trail Blazers' surge to the top of the Western Conference, as there are only a handful of guys in the league with his combination of size and explosive athleticism. Written off by many at the age of 21, look for him to turn the corner now that he's gotten his feet wet. Despite constant setbacks, he managed to average roughly nine points and seven boards in just 21.5 minutes, a hint of how productive he can be if he can stay on the floor.

16. Marcus Camby, L.A. Clippers - The 2007 Defensive Player of the Year may not end the season with the Clips unless they're making a playoff push, so you'll be able to see just how valuable he's perceived to be when the hunt for his services heats up. A dynamic rebounder and shot blocker, the 35-year-old is at the stage of his career where he's solely interested in winning, making him a candidate to be a vital potential mercenary come the trade deadline.

17. Jermaine O'Neal, Miami - He may seem ready for the retirement home given his persistent injuries, but don't lose sight of the fact J.O. got drafted as a 17-year-old and will be just 31 when the season starts. In the final year of a massive contract, O'Neal has to have his body bounce back in order to make any significant coin come the summer and has been working out constantly to report in peak physical condition. Maybe he'll never be a perennial All-Star again, but he can still alter shots, rebound and score around the basket, not to mention being able to defend most opposing centers one-on-one.

18. Chris Kaman, L.A. Clippers - When he's able to play, it's hard to argue against his effectiveness. He admitted pressing to live up to his large contract extesion back in '06-'07 and struggled, but has otherwise performed when injuries haven't gotten in the way. If his badly injured left foot finally got enough rest to heal correctly, he's capable of finally giving L.A. a return on their investment.

19. Andris Biedrins, Golden State - He is who he is, a limited offensive player whose length and energy allow him to make positive contributions more often than not, especially since he fits in perfectly with his team's up-tempo approach. Despite missing 20 games, Biedrins averaged a double-double for the first time last season (11.9 ppg, 11.2 rpg) and at 23, is entering the stage of his career where he'll reach his peak physically and should be most effective over the next three-to-five years.

20. Kendrick Perkins, Boston - He gets the least credit among the Celtics regulars, but has proven invaluable with his terrific defense and heady play. Without Kevin Garnett available to the Celtics last postseason, he stepped up with 11.9 points, 11.6 rebounds and 2.6 blocks while doing an effective enough job on Orlando's Howard to give his short-handed team an opportunity to reach the conference finals. Perfectly suited for his role on a team filled with stars, Perk will do more for their pursuit of another ring than high-profile pickup Rasheed Wallace, who figures to cut into some of his minutes, but won't supplant him in the lineup.

Also considered: Brad Miller, Brendan Haywood, Rasheed Wallace, Nenad Krstic, Joakim Noah, Tyson Chandler, Marcin Gortat, Spencer Hawes, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Roy Hibbert, Samuel Dalembert, Marc Gasol, Hasheem Thabeet, Darko Milicic, Joel Przybilla, Zaza Pachulia, DeSagana Diop, Jeff Foster, JaVale McGee, Kwame Brown, Erick Dampier, Chris Andersen, Nick Collison, Etan Thomas, Ronny Turiaf.

Tony Mejia is senior writer for Pro Basketball News. He can be reached at mejia@probasketballnews.com.

COMMENTS

Tyson Chandler surely deserves a top spot for combining physical power with delicate skills
By: emilio 09/14/09 04:33am
Jermaine O'Neal was a very good player. Life on the low block in the nba is a rough place and his long list of injuries bear that fact out.
By: vc 09/03/09 10:32am
duncan= 4 rings dwight= jus an all star..
By: ray 09/01/09 10:13am
Not too sure about this list..like many there are flaws all over the place..why Duncan is listed as a center is beyond me..yes he plays the postion,,,but is NOT a center..I'm sure we've all witnessed teams playing 2 points at the same time..why is it so confussing to see 2 pf's play at the same time? Howard has yet to develop his offensive game to be #1..learn some moves...anyway..the center postion is a dieing breed in todays NBA..oh yea..SHAQ sucks!
By: Chris 09/01/09 08:08am
duncan is # 1!!!past achivements?duncan has 4 rings and 2 resular season MVP!Howard is just an inside operator who can be shut down as what we have seen during the finals against gasol.as what shaq have said he's just doin what shaq has invented."i'm not impress"as the deisel said.
By: sam 08/31/09 04:26pm
Duncan is the number # 1 at center and or power forward, duncan offense will make howard dizzy.
By: m arobinson 08/31/09 01:22pm
Biedrins is a top 10 I would put him at 7 on this list. He is a team player, not a 1 on 1 scorer. But he is very smart, and always contributes. An Elite rebounder, averages more than a block and a steal per game, as well as 2 assists per game. high FG%. he can lead the fast break, (the guy has handles) and is a good passer. He isn't a dominant player but there is a reason why all the coaches like him.
By: Isaac 08/31/09 03:50am
Perkins is a power forward. He sucks as a center. Gasol and Bynum shut him down. I personally think Duncan should be number 1, followed by Howard. Both power forward size, but effect as centers.
By: Axle 08/30/09 08:50pm
I agree with everyone who says Timmy should be nimber one.Howard is a great player and dominates the game inside but I dont think he would be as dominating if duncan garnnet and shaq where all still young
By: Joe 08/30/09 07:48pm
at their best younger playoffs years, Shaq did 30+15, Duncan made 25+15+5. and they fought each other every year. now, Dwight fights Kendrick Perkins and Anderson Varejao, struggling with Lamar Odom, and makes 20+15. he cannot jump to basket not sitting down before. but if Shaq, if healthy Garnett.. what Dwight will do?!
By: roman 08/30/09 06:54am
the real rating is what a guy can do in playoffs. i wanna see next year how Dwight dominates Shaq in the conf finals. even 38-yo Shaq. you really believe Dwight can do? c'mon..
By: roman 08/30/09 06:24am
ambiguous formula of past accomplishments.....that alone can tell you that duncan should be by far the greatest PF ever....and by far the no. 1 on the list
By: motki 08/30/09 01:46am
duncan should be no.1 on this list
By: tony 08/29/09 10:54am
ambiguous formula of past accomplishments, upside, team role and general worthiness of swagger......like from 97 where duncan was drafted why is he number 2?
By: motki 08/29/09 03:18am
At least a third of these guys aren't centers, they are FPOPs -- Forwards Playing Out of Position. What does it say about the league when guys like Biedrins, Amare, etc, -- good power forwards -- are listed as Centers? And why are you ranking guys on potential? What has Oden done to rate a spot in the top 20?
By: dg007 08/28/09 01:06pm
Kendrick Perkins sucks people. Deal with it.
By: HawkMan 08/28/09 11:30am
Haha. I love how Perk haters come off saying stuff like "are you new to sports?" "what games have you been watching?"... those are the same questions I'm asking myself when seeing Perkins ranked 20th. If you don't know why Perkins should be ranked higher then do some research and realize that he's a top 5 defensive center in the league and plays in arguably the best starting 5 that includes 3 sure fire hall of famers, and a pg on the brink of becoming a perrenial all-star ... if you just going to go by averages to determine a players value Perk will never blow you away (tho his 2.4 bpg post all-star break are pretty sexy). I agree with lowposts, Perk is easily a top 10 center in the league, and quit possibly is the very best for dollar value out of any player not still on their rookie deal in the entire league. recognize. or the beast will eat you.
By: Mainebleedsgreen 08/28/09 09:20am
wow, Perkins is flying way under the radar. He may not seem great on paper, but he gives more defensively than many of the guys listed ahead of him. He's one of the few guys who can't be bullied by Howard. Offense is weighted too heavily these days. Don't say his stats are inflated or that he'd do worse if he was on another team. He'd do much better individually if he didn't have to share responsibilities with Garnett.
By: Moji 08/28/09 08:38am
Perkins 20th?? Are you stupid?? Duncan and Amare aren't true Centers as they're both PF's. Shaq?? Okur?? Andrew Bynum?? Bynum can't hold a candle to Perk. Perkins is EASILY a top 7 center. Stop looking at this through fantasy numbers. Perkins is the ONLY center who can shut down both Howard and Shaq by himself. And he's gonna show again this year why he's the perfect championship center.
By: Mike 08/28/09 08:27am
Duncan is 2nd!?!
By: Tinky 08/27/09 11:02pm
Dennis, here's a top 20: Chamberlain, Russell, Abdul-Jabbar, Shaq, Olajuwon, Mo Malone, Parish, Robinson, Ewing, Walt Bellamy, Mutombo, Nate Thurmond, Unseld, Mikan, Big Bob Lanier, Willis Reed, Mourning, Cowens, Artis Gilmore, Sikma. Tim Duncan can be included in this group if you'd like him there, as he's spent his career playing both the PF and C ... Dwight has a few more years of doing what he's doing to join this group, which is saying something. Yao also has a strong resume going, but needs to bounce back from his foot injury and add to it in order to crack this 20 down the road.
By: Mejia 08/27/09 08:31pm
Bargnani is WAY too high. Overall it's a pretty solid list but I think it's pretty crazy to put him over guys like Brook Lopez or Andrew Bogut. So the big changes I'd make is take Bargnani down to 17th, and move Jermaine O'Neal to 20th. Fix those two things and I don't have any big problems with it.
By: Zander 08/27/09 05:32pm
Oden? HAHAHA He should be at the bottom of the barrel. He has yet to show that he can even be productive for a couple of games.
By: KobesNeyeG 08/27/09 05:31pm
Hey, for those of you who are confused, Duncan is a center. Popovich moved him to that position because he wants him hitting more jump shots and to keep him from wearing himself out in the post.
By: SpursFan 08/27/09 05:09pm
No love for Brendan Haywood in the top 20? It's not surprising, really. Most people (including so-called "journalists") ignore him because he plays in DC but the guy is one of the best defensive bigs in the game. He doesn't block as many shots as a guy like Howard, but forces a lot of misses and can guard any big man one-on-one without help. If you use +/- stats, it's clear that he has an incredible impact on the game when he's on the floor. His career stats aren't especially impressive, but you have to take into account that the previous Wizards coach didn't like him and would bench him for only that reason. When he finally got his chance two seasons ago, he averaged close to a double-double. The frustrating thing for Wizards fans is that we knew he could have been doing that all along. Now that we finally have a competent head coach, I think you'll see Haywood appear on lists like this more and more. People will claim that he was a "late bloomer" but the truth is that his abilities were wasted by a short-sighted coach. Oh well. Better late then never, I guess.
By: LyricalRico 08/27/09 09:09am
Tony, Can you rank the Top 15 centers of all time? I'm curious to see how this current crop would rant with the all time greats.
By: Dennis 08/27/09 03:55am
I'd probably put Duncan number one and Howard at number two, and find a spot on here for Big Z somewhere, but other than all that this list is dead on. Amare and Pau do play center for all you naysayers. Apparently we have a lot of people commenting who dont actually watch the NBA. Especially the one who said Perkins should be ranked higher. Gimme a break.
By: Tyler 08/26/09 09:55pm
Big Z is a top 20 center. But hey, Al Horford is in the top 15 averaging a whopping 11-9.
By: MYoung23 08/26/09 07:58pm
C'mon... Bargnani, Camby, Kaman,Bogut, Lopez, Biedrins ahead of Perkins?? What games are you watching. Perk's top 12, if not top 10.
By: NH-BBall! 08/26/09 03:17pm
Good stuff. I think Howard is on his way to becoming an all-time great player. Once he gets 2 more reliable post moves he will be unstoppable, he almost already is. Stoudemire is an interesting choice at 4. On potential and raw talent he is 2, but his lack of defense and (in my opinion) poor rebounding limit his domination. I'm not as big of a fan as I use to be. Al Horford is going to have huge year in the ATL. He will become a consistent double-double machine, without many plays run for him. I hate to say it because he was once a great player, but Jermaine O'Neal is done. He no longer has any lift and just can't stay healthy. I'm hoping he retires soon.
By: Jed 08/26/09 02:46pm
There are simply to many guys on this list which i would consider to be PFs. Most are debateable, but Amar'e for example is definitely not a center...
By: db 08/26/09 02:46pm
LOL @ lowposts thinking Perkins should be top 10. Are you new to sports? Every player has a good series here and there. Maybe Ruben Patterson should be considered better than Kobe while we're at it since he has stopped him a few times in the past. Perkins is fine at 20, that's where he belongs. Boston Homerism at its' best.
By: D.G 08/26/09 11:32am
It saddens me that the center's in this league are so bad that you have to rank Shaq even in the top 10.
By: Chris4Houston 08/26/09 11:17am
Perkins 20th? You're nuts. He manhandled your #1 guy in the 2nd round. Easily Top 10..
By: lowposts 08/26/09 11:01am
Fair list, but I'd put Duncan ahead of the limited Howard. Speaking of Duncan, most of these guys aren't even centers. And you're right about Oden. If healthy, he will be right with the top centers in the NBA this year.
By: Don 08/26/09 10:28am
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